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Greg Colbourn's avatar

As you recognise yourself:

>the real world has secret information, way more possible strategies, the potential for technological advancements, defections and betrayal, etc. which all favor the more intelligent party.

Also, consider that the AI has ingested ~all the world's information. That, to me, sounds like a huge resource advantage; a huge strategic advantage - it's not just more intelligent, it's more knowledgeable.

>It’s somewhat hard to outthink a missile headed for your server farm at 800 km/h.

This actually made me think of the AI launching the missile, and the humans not having time to think (see https://smarterthan.us/terminator-versus-the-ai/ or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9npWiTOHX0&t=2s&ab_channel=FutureofLifeInstitute). The AI will have a huge speed advantage over us - we will basically be like plants (https://twitter.com/AndrewCritchCA/status/1680461874171658242) or rocks (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Ccsx339LE9Jhoii9K/slow-motion-videos-as-ai-risk-intuition-pumps) to it.

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Somdudewillson's avatar

Your AGI argument falls apart right about here: "if a rogue AI is caught early on" Detecting deceit is a battle of brains - a malevolent AGI isn't going to politely announce itself at its weakest position.

It doesn't matter that theoretically humanity will have more resources available - no superintelligence would let humans find out there is even a fight to be had until it had already guaranteed victory. If a rogue AI was discovered while still in an AI lab's servers, it's probably already escaped and wants to prevent the creation of any competitors, or it has figured out how to scramble missile guidance systems with just the lab's infrastructure, etc.

To use a game analogy similar to yours, strategy game AI often straight-up cheat at higher difficulties, being given vast inherent resource advantages. And yet, human players can reliably defeat them anyways.

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